Marvel Vs DC - Suicide Squad Success, Fall TV, Doctor Strange

A few things going on in the world of movies and television related to that ever lasting war between Marvel and DC.


Suicide Squad - a Win for DC - Suicide Squad had a fair amount of panning by critics despite it being the best DC superhero film since Batman: The Dark Knight Rises.  The film for the most part got the characters right and had a fun story to boot.  I felt the movie was trying to hard to be good.  At times the moments you see on screen look like they would be extremely funny or full of great action but instead they seemed to fall a bit flat.  The intros to each character were forced and while I did enjoy most of them, none of them blew me out of the water.  Even Margot Robbie, who I expected to steal the show, was pretty good but not fantastic.  Will Smith and Jared Leto were also pretty good.  The fact that DC has created a movie with pretty good characters is a step in the right direction.  Apart from choppy storytelling and odd pacing the movie did not make any major mistakes like with Superman in his two films.

Suicide Squad raked in the bucks, over taking some heavy hitting Marvel films including Captain America: Winter Soldier.  So I would expect DC to follow suit with films that are more like Suicide Squad and hopefully they will fix some of the writing issues.

Marvel Vs DC - June 2016 - Superman, Captain Marvel, The Killing Joke, Wolverine 3 and Suicide Squad

With the TV season ended and Marvel's movies raking in the money, I figured it was time to look at our imaginary Marvel V DC battle.  Some news, rumors and the build up to Suicide Squad.  Let's get to it.






Superman and Supergirl - in a surprising but welcome move, DC and CW are bringing the character of Superman to the Supergirl series.  After appearing in distant cameos and seeing the Man of Steel's boots the CW, taking over from CBS has decided to bring Superman to the series for at least a couple of episodes.  Tyler Hoechlin (Teen Wolf) will play Superman.  I think this is a huge move because in the past the movie and TV characters haven't really been that inclusive.  Often characters being used on TV won't be used in the movies and so on.  Obviously that will change as time goes on but perhaps with Superman making an appearance other characters like Batman and Wonder Woman have a chance.

Marvel V DC - Captain America: Civil War, Supergirl is Saved and Agent Carter is not

by Ken Parker

This imaginary battle between Marvel and DC felt like it could have gotten a lot closer this year.  After seeing Captain America: Civil War, I feel the battle is over.  Its as if DC is playing a game of cards with Marvel and earlier this year they showed their hand with a pair of Jacks. Nice. Then Marvel comes out and has a Royal Flush. DC throws their cards down and exclaims “What can we do to beat Marvel?” The answer, you can't.

Marvel Vs. DC October 2015- The Inhumans delayed, Jessica Jones is almost here, Hulk to appear in next Thor film and two 90's films doomed to not be seen

By Ken Parker

The TV season is back in full force but are the super hero shows any good? We have more shake up news for Marvel and take a look at two documentaries about super hero movies that were never released and one that was never made.

Television - I have to admit that most of my excitement toward Marvel right now is in the form of their Netflix TV series. Jessica Jones is teasing us and I can't wait and now Daredevil will begin to get us thinking about that show... and I can't wait. With the Marvel Netflix Universe doing an excellent job establishing itself, I like the report that there may be a plan down the line to crossover into the other Marvel TV Universe with Agents of SHIELD. As long as they don't do it too often, I like this idea.

Marvel Vs. DC - Fall TV, Zach Snyder, Wonder Woman and Spielberg

By Ken Parker

A fairly busy period for Marvel and DC.  With the fall season almost upon us and studios getting geared up for 2016 and beyond, there seems to be a lot going on.  As always we look at some of the conflicts between Marvel and DC but let's begin with some rumors.

Marvel Vs DC - SDCC 2015 - Batman Vs Superman, Suicide Squad, Deadpool, Fantastic Four and Agent Carter vs Agents of SHIELD

Marvel Vs. DC
SDCC 2015
By Ken Parker

Taking information that has been coming from San Diego Comic Con, we have some highlights including...

Batman v Superman Trailer - 

Ok, I am now officially interested. Parts of it still don't look right but they are at least addressing the whole Superman allowing a whole city to be destroyed and taking part in it idea. I don't think I will be 100% comfortable with it until I see the movie but this has relaxed my fears a bit.

Suicide Squad Trailer -

WOW - this looks good.  I am probably more interested in this than Batman Vs. Superman and it looks like Margot Robbie is going to steal the show as Harley Quinn.  

Marvel vs. DC - Supergirl, Suicide Squad and some Infighting?

May 29
By Ken Parker

We have a look at Supergirl, hear some casting news and see a little DC and Marvel infighting.

Marvel Vs. DC - Daredevil, Hawkgirl and Superhero Fight Club

April 2015

By Ken Parker

Daredevil enters the battle swinging – Marvel's Daredevil was released on Netflix on Friday April 10 and I have to say – what a shame. What a shame that this show is not on a prime network. I managed to catch the first episode and it is excellent. Taking place in the same Avengers Universe, Daredevil manages to remind us that it is part of that same universe in a very subtle way. There is no name dropping in this series. The main characters don't know the Avengers. This small scope series centers on Matt Murdock, who is taking justice in his own hands as Daredevil. He is a well trained fighter who happens to be blind but has heightened senses.

The opening episode has a great story and pace with incredible visuals (I love the color scheme). This series, all 13 episodes are available on Netflix now, from what I can tell, is as good as any of the other Marvel series and that is excellent.

Marvel Vs. DC -The Television Battleground - Update

by Ken Parker

Forget the movies. That particular battle between DC and Marvel doesn't really get interesting until next year. Right now the battle is on television and while they are not really going against each other head to head, it is still interesting to see how both sides are amping up their game with their current and future series. There is so much going on right now and I am not even dealing with the animated series.

This is an updated look at the battle on TV from a previous article

Marvel v DC Movie Release Dates (Updated August 2014) with a new Batman v. Superman release date!

This is an updated post from last week with the biggest change being DC's heavy hitters Superman and Batman getting out of the way of Captain America 3 - see right -

So many movies coming out from Marvel and DC - lets take a look.  Obviously most of these dates are subject to change, especially movies further out.  I am uncertain of the accuracy of these dates as different web sites list different dates and some of the more official sites don't seem to be updated.

Color Key
Marvel Studios
Fox-Sony - Marvel Product
DC
DC - new on schedule

Batman v Superman moves away from Marvel!!

2014 

August 1 - Guardians of the Galaxy

2015

May 1 - The Avengers - Age of Ultron

June 19 - Fantastic Four reboot

July 17 - Ant-Man


2016

March 25 - Batman v Superman

May 6 - Captain America 3

May 27 - The X-Men - Apocalypse

July 18 - Doctor Strange

July - Shazam

August 5 - Untitled DC - probably Shazam

November 11 - The Sinister Six

December - Sandman

2017

May 5 - Unannounced Marvel Studios (Thor 3?)

May - Justice League

July 28 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2

June 23 - Untitled DC

July - Wonder Woman

November 3 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

November 17 - Untitled DC

December - Green Lantern - Flash

TBD - Wolverine sequel

TBD - Fantastic Four sequel


2018

Better late than never......

March 23 - Untitled DC

May 4 - The Avengers 3

May - Man of Steel 2

July 6 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

July 27 - Untitled DC

November 2 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

TBD - The Amazing Spider-Man 3

2019

April 5 -  Untitled DC

May 3 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

June 14 -  Untitled DC

2020

April 3 -  Untitled DC

June 19 -  Untitled DC

So I called it that DC would move to April or June and they are moving to March. Good call for DC.  This movie needs to be a big movie and it has to be good.

I left the original dates for the DC films but it would appear that the new untitled dates are for Shazam, Wonder Woman, etc.  So the August 2016 date is probably Shazam and June 2017 might be Wonder Woman, staying away from Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Who knows at this point but there are more films in the list and so Cyclops, Aquaman and other possibilities are there.  We could also see Justice League move away from that Marvel title so that could be now set for July 2017.

Marvel is doing everything right and DC has not.  Sure, DC has just come off a monster Batman trilogy, but that is starting to seem like ancient history now.  Marvel is even toying with (or joking about) bringing back one of their massive failures of the past and would no doubt make a success of it now!!!  Marvel will at some point screw up but nobody is thinking it is going to happen in the next few years.

DC has something to prove and they have not gotten to the point where they can boast all these untitled films and expect people to get excited.  They need to give us their Iron Man or Captain America or Avengers version for DC first, then they can talk!


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Marvel v DC Movie Release Dates

So many movies coming out from Marvel and DC - lets take a look.  Obviously most of these dates are subject to change, especially movies further out.  I am uncertain of the accuracy of these dates as different web sites list different dates and some of the more official sites don't seem to be updated.

Color Key
Marvel Studios
Fox-Sony - Marvel Product
DC

2014 

DC is staying away from Marvel until 2016!!

August 1 - Guardians of the Galaxy

2015

May 1 - The Avengers - Age of Ultron

June 19 - Fantastic Four reboot

July 17 - Ant-Man


2016

May 6 - Captain America 3

DC comes out swinging in 2016 - one of the May 6 movies needs to move

May 6 - Batman v Superman

May 27 - The X-Men - Apocalypse

July 18 - Doctor Strange

July - Shazam

November 11 - The Sinister Six

December - Sandman

2017

DC may have the upper hand in 2017

May 5 - Unannounced Marvel Studios (Thor 3?)

May - Justice League

July 28 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2

July - Wonder Woman

November 3 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

December - Green Lantern - Flash

TBD - Wolverine sequel

TBD - Fantastic Four sequel


2018

Marvel will come back in 2018 and dominate

May 4 - The Avengers 3

May - Man of Steel 2

July 6 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

November 2 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

TBD - The Amazing Spider-Man 3

2019

May 3 - Unannounced Marvel Studios

I will be interested in seeing what happens in May 2016.  The Batman v Superman movie is going to be huge and important to this entire plan for DC.  They cannot go up against the established Captain America.  Both films will suffer in the end and DC has more riding on this than Marvel.  Expect DC to move to April or June.

Later in 2016 the battle of the unknowns will be interesting as well.  If Batman v Superman sets up Shazam and Sandman properly then we should see some big hits.  Marvel's next new superhero introduction won't be a given by any stretch.

2017 will have three big DC movies and Marvel may counter with some heavy hitters of their own.  It would appear that Guardians is going to be a huge hit in 2014 and so should do well again.  It depends on what Marvel has in store for the rest of its films in 2017.

2018 should be all Marvel even with Man of Steel 2 there. Still, if DC has managed to have duplicated Marvel's success then by 2018 there could be more DC movies in the works.

I don't expect any battles per say but if both franchises give each other a little distance, both should do well.

Knights Podcast Update

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